Winning the Digital Marketing Game (Duane Forrester with Jason Barnard)

Duane Forrester with Jason Barnard at Kalicube Tuesdays

Duane Forrester talks with Jason Barnard about branding in digital marketing.

In this podcast Duane and Jason talk about the importance of building your brand persona and how companies can prepare for the future of search: amongst other things, smaller businesses need to take a good long look at their own branding, their customers’ needs, the channels they can realistically leverage… and building their own internal knowledge graph. Stunningly enthralling conversation!

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What you’ll learn

  • 00:07 Introducing Duane Forrester
  • 00:46 Duane’s Brand SERP
  • 02:40 Why does the citation in Duane’s Knowledge Panel differ across countries UnGagged, Search Engine Journal and BrightEdge?
  • 04:38 Answer: Duane’s digital footprint
  • 06:12 Google Books pushing an author into the Knowledge Graph
  • 08:21 How important are knowledge graphs to your business?
  • 10:07 What is most important for search engines today?
  • 12:12 Is Google’s Knowledge Panel for products going to help them compete with Amazon?
  • 14:50 How can small, family-owned or independent business compete?
  • 18:48 Branded searches going to become more important – how can you build a brand persona?
  • 20:50 An example of how important it is to update your brand with your unique selling propositions such as philanthropic ventures
  • 24:45 How to target audiences better (avoid the mistake of thinking you can reach and help everyone)
  • 26:19 What defines your branding?
  • 29:07 Why smaller businesses should start building their own knowledge graph
  • 30:24 What can you do to prepare for the future of search on engines such as Google and Bing
  • 31:41 Where is Google Discover taking us?

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Jason Barnard has over 2 decades of experience in digital marketing.

He currently teaches Brand SERP optimisation to students at and writes regularly for leading marketing publications such as Search Engine Journal, SEMrush, OnCrawl, Searchmetrics as well as appearing regularly on digital marketing webinars and speaking at major conferences around the world such as BrightonSEO, PubCon, SMX London, YoastCon.